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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 12:56 pm
by bded
Thanks for translation, now I'll find rasp and adjust the valve.
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:17 pm
by hahne
You can work it with drilling-machine or "Dremel". Bye Gottfried
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:42 pm
by bded
Everything is set, and I can feel the diference, now I just have to find bigger carb to fit.
Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 8:56 pm
by deana
erm?

Does this increase the 125cc to something bigger? I need to keep my Gary (the KK) as a 125, but would like to overhaul the engine as he is now 20 and I doubt if he has ever been done, looking at him. Anyway, is there an overhaul kit that I can buy, along with instructions for the work?
At the same time, can anyone explain for me both the APTS and the Power Valve? I don't understand either of them and can find nothing written about them in English

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:51 pm
by gileraXR1
deana wrote:erm?

Does this increase the 125cc to something bigger? I need to keep my Gary (the KK) as a 125, but would like to overhaul the engine as he is now 20 and I doubt if he has ever been done, looking at him. Anyway, is there an overhaul kit that I can buy, along with instructions for the work?
At the same time, can anyone explain for me both the APTS and the Power Valve? I don't understand either of them and can find nothing written about them in English

Hi deana.
Well... APTS it's the acronym of
Automatic
Power
Tuning
System.
This it's the system with Gilera has tried to give more power to his 2T engine at the low number of rpm.
APTS it's based on a cylindrical exaust valve that until about 7000 rpm it remains in closed position.
This closed position leave a small passage for exaust and give to engine more power at low rpm.
Over about 7000 rpm, this valve it's rotate by a connection with drive shaft.
In this way valve open gradually all the exaust (about 8000 rpm), and can give to engine to "explode" his maximum power!
This is the approximate APTS valve operation.....
In Italy there are 2 kits for Gilera engine:
- Polini without APTS valve (about 160 c.c.)
- Malossi with APTS valve (about 168 c.c.)
Ciao!
Marco
Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:02 pm
by deana
Thank you Marco, I didn't realise that you could increase the power of an engine by resticting the flow of exhaust gases through the exhaust ports
I take it from your description of the two available kits that they are both intended to increase the cc of the engine, and in that case are of no use to me

Is there an overhaul kit I can get which will allow me to just refurbish the engine?
Ok, so now I understand the APTS, but what does 'Power Drive' mean?
Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:15 pm
by bded
deana wrote:erm?

Does this increase the 125cc to something bigger? I need to keep my Gary (the KK) as a 125, but would like to overhaul the engine as he is now 20 and I doubt if he has ever been done, looking at him. Anyway, is there an overhaul kit that I can buy, along with instructions for the work?
At the same time, can anyone explain for me both the APTS and the Power Valve? I don't understand either of them and can find nothing written about them in English

Yes, it increases 125 to 168 ccm, I think that malossi kit is cheaper than original one and performance are better (I don't know is it possible to buy original kit with 125ccm), with malosii you get instructions on italian language.
APTS is gilera brand (name) for pover valve, this valve can adjust exhaust outlet. The device consists of partition valve that is transversely mounted to the cylinder. Valve controls the height of the outlet and operates the extension chamber simultaneously by opening or shutting down the gas flow into the chamber. On lower rpm valve divides the outlet and part of the gases flows into the chamber thus optimizing torque values, over 6000 or 6500 rpm valve opens the outlet completely.
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:16 am
by Joachim
deana wrote:
Ok, so now I understand the APTS, but what does 'Power Drive' mean?
Power *Drive* or Power *Valve* what you've asked first
ciao joachim
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:21 am
by deana
Morning Joachim,
Initially my question was about Power Valve, as part of the APTS system. I understand that better thanks to Marco and bdeb, so am now asking about the 'Power Drive' (I have a Power Drive sign on the side of the swing arm).
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:32 am
by Joachim
It just seems to be one of Luigis fantastic stickers

Joachim
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:44 am
by deana
Many thanks, I will admit that I had been hoping for something a little grander than that

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:07 am
by gileraXR1
deana wrote:Morning Joachim,
Initially my question was about Power Valve, as part of the APTS system. I understand that better thanks to Marco and bdeb, so am now asking about the 'Power Drive' (I have a Power Drive sign on the side of the swing arm).
Hi deana.
Well.... "Power Drive" it's the name of mechanical lever device of your Gilera.... and, I think, of all Gilera (?)
Shortly: your mono-shock-absorber it's fastened at a group of 2 small levers (1st triangle shaped and 2nd of rectilinear shaped); this group connect mono shock at swing arm.
Those levers leave to obtain a sweetest movement of rear part of your bike when it's in motion (for example meets obstacles or backs).....
Have a nice day!
Ciao
Marco
Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 9:56 pm
by gumnronin
bonjour
pourriez vous m aider
j ai acheter un haut moteur malossi mx1 sur ebay pour le monter sur ma mxr.( ref 0631006089 gr.ter.d.65 )
mon probleme est que je n ai pas eu la notice de montage ni de modification pour la valve.
si quelqu un pouvait me faire un scan lisible merci d avance
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:25 am
by gileraXR1
gumnronin wrote:bonjour
pourriez vous m aider
j ai acheter un haut moteur malossi mx1 sur ebay pour le monter sur ma mxr.( ref 0631006089 gr.ter.d.65 )
mon probleme est que je n ai pas eu la notice de montage ni de modification pour la valve.
si quelqu un pouvait me faire un scan lisible merci d avance
Has someone scanned assembly instructions of this kit?
http://www.malossi.com/Catalogo/Cata_Ma ... =31%206089
Ciao!
Marco
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 12:51 pm
by hahne
I have it, Instruction & Kits. I will send it, so I am able ( sorry, broken foot) Bye Gottfried